November 19, 2009

HP responds to ‘Why I love public transportation and hate HP’

David SparkAt the begin­ning of Novem­ber I wrote an arti­cle titled Why I love pub­lic trans­porta­tion and hate HP after a hor­ri­ble cus­tomer ser­vice expe­ri­ence with HP where I had to wait two hours for tech­ni­cal ser­vice after I had paid for their tier 2 ser­vice. I com­pared it to pub­lic trans­porta­tion in San Fran­cisco because now we have transpon­ders on our buses let­ting us know how long we’ll have to wait. That infor­ma­tion is very valu­able, allow­ing us to make a deci­sion on how to pro­ceed. Should I wait, take another bus, or hail a cab?

While I like HP prod­ucts and the actual ser­vice was excel­lent, the wait angered me so much that it has irrepara­bly dam­aged my opin­ion of the HP brand. I was con­tacted by two peo­ple at HP and spoke to one of them on the phone off the record. I wanted some­thing on the record that I could print here, so I sent two ques­tions for which the HP rep­re­sen­ta­tive said he would get an “on the  record” response. After a week and a half, here are the responses to my two ques­tions from Jodi Schilling, Vice Pres­i­dent, HP Global Cus­tomer Sup­port Oper­a­tions for the Amer­i­cas. I reserve my opin­ions and follow-up ques­tions for you read­ers until after you read the responses.

My Q&A with HP

David: What is HP doing to edu­cate cus­tomers about their wait time online for cus­tomer service/technical sup­port? I don’t want to know that on aver­age you answer tech ques­tions in 10 min­utes. I want to know how some­one who either gets stuck online for a while can fig­ure out what’s hap­pen­ing so they can make an edu­cated deci­sion. For exam­ple, when I look at the Muni wait time and it says 45 min­utes for the next bus, I know I should take an alter­nate route. If I know I’m going to be wait­ing for two hours on hold, I know to take an alter­nate route.

HP’s response: HP’s focus has been to answer all calls in a timely man­ner, and we typ­i­cally do so in 2 min­utes or less. In your par­tic­u­lar case, it appeared to have been dur­ing a time period of unusual and extremely high call vol­ume and we are cur­rently increas­ing our staffing to ensure min­i­mal hold times. It also looked as if you were trans­ferred twice, which added to the wait time, unfor­tu­nately. We sin­cerely apol­o­gize for the inconvenience.

Thank you for your sug­ges­tion about the wait time noti­fi­ca­tion sys­tem. Although HP cur­rently does not have a sys­tem like this in place, we may con­sider adding one in the future. With the vol­ume of calls com­ing into HP and being routed to mul­ti­ple call cen­ter loca­tions, esti­mat­ing hold times is no easy task. The length of tech­ni­cal sup­port calls can also vary widely depend­ing on the issues being dis­cussed and the level of tech­ni­cal exper­tise of the cus­tomer, so pro­vid­ing accu­rate esti­mates would be a challenge.

David: Is the offi­cial com­plaint line mark@hp.com? How are peo­ple sup­posed to know that? Is there a phone num­ber peo­ple can call? You said that hun­dreds of thou­sands of peo­ple send emails, but I’m sure plenty more would if they knew that. Have you done some type of PR cam­paign to pro­mote that email address? I know that if I click on a cou­ple of screens and scroll to the bot­tom I can find that, but really, who would know?

Mark HurdHP’s response: Cus­tomers are asked for feed­back on their sup­port expe­ri­ence after nearly every sup­port inter­ac­tion, either by phone, on the HP Cus­tomer Care site, or fol­low­ing sup­port chats and via email. We greatly value cus­tomer feed­back and take action on it when­ever fea­si­ble. If cus­tomers have spe­cific com­plaints, they are encour­aged to sub­mit them online here. (Note: This is a form to “email HP CEO Mark Hurd [pic­tured at right] your sug­ges­tions and complaints.”)

My take on HP’s response

While I appre­ci­ate HP reach­ing out to me, I wasn’t that impressed with their response.

1. They’re very sorry about my two hour wait, yet they took a week and a half to answer my two ques­tions. That doesn’t jibe.

2. How is any­one sup­posed to know about that Mark Hurd cus­tomer ser­vice page? They didn’t answer that part of the ques­tion. The only rea­son I knew about it and asked about it was because the per­son who con­tacted me off the record had told me about it. Not in my wildest dreams would I have thought to con­tact the CEO of HP. Out­side of my pro­vid­ing the link here, how would any of you know to make that con­nec­tion and con­tact him?

Also, this strikes me as a com­pletely bogus cus­tomer ser­vice offer­ing. They’re telling us to email Mark Hurd, and yet I’m sure he’s not read­ing nor respond­ing to any of those emails. I don’t need to talk to Mark Hurd. I just need to talk to some­one who will con­sider my ques­tion and respond accord­ingly, which I’m sure is what happens.

But why say, “Email Mark Hurd your com­plaint”? What kind of bogus non-authentic rela­tion­ship does HP want to cre­ate with us? Why would they set up some­thing like that? I take that cus­tomer ser­vice page the same way as McDonald’s telling me to email all my com­plaints to Mayor McCheese. How can I pos­si­bly take it seriously?

What com­pa­nies have a good cus­tomer ser­vice wait experience?

I do rec­og­nize that it’s not easy to cal­cu­late the cus­tomer ser­vice wait time, but I know com­pa­nies have done it before. I hon­estly can’t remem­ber which com­pa­nies. So, I put the ques­tions out to Socialmedia.biz readers:

What large com­pany has a good phone cus­tomer ser­vice expe­ri­ence? Which ones inform you what your wait time will be? Which ones let you know the num­ber of peo­ple who are ahead of you in the queue? Do any oth­ers pro­vide a good expe­ri­ence? I remem­ber Microsoft used to have a radio sta­tion pro­vid­ing lots of infor­ma­tion. Do they still do that?

I’m look­ing for tips and advice that we can all share to improve the cus­tomer wait expe­ri­ence. If it’s going to have to be a two-hour wait, what can we do to inform peo­ple about that, or pro­vide a faster response through some other means?

Cre­ative Com­mons image by A30_Tsitika on Flickr. David Spark helps busi­nesses grow by devel­op­ing thought lead­er­ship through sto­ry­telling and cov­er­ing live events at Spark Media Solu­tions. He blogs at The Spark Minute and can be heard and seen reg­u­larly on ABC Radio, Cranky Geeks with John C. Dvo­rak, and KQED in San Fran­cisco. See his busi­ness pro­file, con­tact David, or leave a com­ment below.

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1.
JD Lasica

David, good post.

I’m a big fan of HP, know a num­ber of peo­ple on the exec­u­tive team there and sus­pect they’re ded­i­cated to pro­vid­ing the best cus­tomer sup­port pos­si­ble. At the same time, I think HP could ben­e­fit from some addi­tional authen­tic­ity and trans­parency into their inter­nal processes, as this episode suggests.

In this era of cost-cutting, ade­quate cus­tomer sup­port has been one of the first things to go, and we should remind com­pa­nies that if they don’t stand behind their prod­ucts, they shouldn’t expect us to do so, either.

Comment by JD LasicaNo Gravatar — November 20, 2009 @ 8:52 am

2.
David Spark

JD:

Thanks. What I feel that hap­pens when peo­ple are kept in the dark about when they’re going to receive cus­tomer ser­vice, is they start cre­at­ing their own story. Of course the com­pany is try­ing to get them to a cus­tomer sup­port per­son, but with­out infor­ma­tion as to what’s hap­pen­ing, we inevitably start try­ing to fig­ure things out, get frus­trated, and get angry. You have to think about the sit­u­a­tion the per­son is on the other line. If you can’t deliver the ser­vice to the per­son right away, what can you do for that per­son in terms of infor­ma­tion, so they don’t let their imag­i­na­tion and frus­tra­tion run wild? In fact, I would sac­ri­fice speed of ser­vice for infor­ma­tion as to when I was going to receive service.

Comment by David SparkNo Gravatar — November 20, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

3.
HPInsider

Mark Hurds HP is all about smoke and mir­rors. The com­pa­nies PR guys are try­ing to give you a pos­i­tive spin, but from the inside I see the cus­tomer ser­vice cul­ture crumbling.

The rea­son — this all comes down from Mr Hurd. He dis­re­spects his employ­ees and his cus­tomers; the only thing that mat­ters to him is his bonus.

If you want bet­ter ser­vice from HP then help us get rid of Mark Hurd.

Comment by HPInsiderNo Gravatar — November 21, 2009 @ 9:34 pm

4.
@MightyCasey

This sounds very sim­i­lar to Dell’s behav­ior after they achieved desktop/laptop mar­ket dom­i­nance. Their cus­tomer ser­vice eroded to the point that “Dell sucks” became a meme. Dell’s fall led to HP’s rise, when HP real­ized there was a huge mar­ket void — they filled it, and now HP sucks. I see it as a fail­ure to build an envi­ron­ment and process(es) that rec­og­nize that the folks on the other end of the phone — be they sin­gle pur­chasers, or cor­po­rate pro­cure­ment offi­cers — are the money train.

I know that I feel less, um, for­ni­cated when some­one talks to me quickly about a tech sup­port issue, even if I have to make a few calls over a few days. Ask­ing some­one to wait two hours, and then giv­ing them the non-answer answers HP’s Schilling gave you, is stu­pid. Par­tic­u­larly stu­pid, since you’re what I call a “mes­sage ampli­fier” — don’t piss off a sto­ry­teller. We never quit…

Comment by @MightyCaseyNo Gravatar — December 3, 2009 @ 1:05 pm

5.
@MightyCasey

This sounds very sim­i­lar to Dell’s behav­ior after they achieved desktop/laptop mar­ket dom­i­nance. Their cus­tomer ser­vice eroded to the point that “Dell sucks” became a meme. Dell’s fall led to HP’s rise, when HP real­ized there was a huge mar­ket void — they filled it, and now HP sucks. I see it as a fail­ure to build an envi­ron­ment and process(es) that rec­og­nize that the folks on the other end of the phone — be they sin­gle pur­chasers, or cor­po­rate pro­cure­ment offi­cers — are the money train.

I know that I feel less, um, for­ni­cated when some­one talks to me quickly about a tech sup­port issue, even if I have to make a few calls over a few days. Ask­ing some­one to wait two hours, and then giv­ing them the non-answer answers HP’s Schilling gave you, is stu­pid. Par­tic­u­larly stu­pid, since you’re what I call a “mes­sage ampli­fier” — don’t piss off a sto­ry­teller. We never quit…

Comment by @MightyCaseyNo Gravatar — December 3, 2009 @ 1:05 pm

6.
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7.
David Spark

So many cus­tomer ser­vice oper­a­tions give you a wait time esti­ma­tion. That infor­ma­tion is an amaz­ingly pow­er­ful tool in cus­tomer ser­vice. Once I have that infor­ma­tion, there are so may deci­sions I can make. By with­hold­ing that infor­ma­tion, I’m lost, con­fused, and get increas­ingly angry. And where am I direct­ing that information?…HP. That’s why it’s so bad to put peo­ple on hold for that long with­out giv­ing them a true time estimation.

With that said, a per­sonal con­tact I made at HP has been very help­ful get­ting my wife’s com­puter fixed and I’m grate­ful for that.

Comment by David SparkNo Gravatar — February 22, 2010 @ 3:32 am

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